Things That Make You Go Hmmm — June 3, 2013 at 12:33 pm

Fox News pundits Lou Dobbs, Erick Erickson, and Juan Williams blame working women for … pretty much everything


Gentlemen, the 1950s called and they’d like their chauvinistic worldview back

The dissolution of society around us. The disintegration of marriage. Something going terribly wrong in American society. Minority communities torn apart. American society torn apart. A catastrophic issue. The loss of a generation. The undermining of our social order.

What is it that’s causing this societal conflagration? According to Fox News commentators Lou Dobbs, Juan Williams, Erick Erickson, and Doug Schoen, it’s the fact that, in 40% of American households with children, women are the primary wage earner. Who knew that women earning more than men would have such a corrosive impact on the very fabric of our American society?

Nobody except these sexist swine.

Here are some of the choicest quotes from their appearance on Dobbs’ Fox program:

Juan Williams:

What we’re seeing with four out of 10 families, now the woman is the primary breadwinner. You’re seeing the disintegration of marriage, you’re seeing men who were hard hit by the economic recession in ways that women weren’t. But you’re seeing, I think, systemically, larger than the political stories that we follow every day, something going terribly wrong in American society, and it’s hurting our children, and it’s going to have impact for generations to come.

Erick Erickson:

I am so used to liberals telling conservatives that they are anti-science. But I mean this is — liberals who defend this and say it’s not a bad thing are very anti-science. When you look at biology, look at the natural world, the roles of a male and female in society; in other animals the male typically is the dominant role, the female is not antithesis or is not competing; it’s a complementary role!/LOLGOP/status/340483187815878656

Doug Schoen:

This is a catastrophic issue and, sadly, no one on the right, left or center is dealing with the breakdown of family structure. We’re losing a generation. Bottom line: it could undermine our social order.

Fox’s Megyn Kelly was having none of it and the next day tore into Dobbs and Erickson for their absurd and sexist statements, asking Erickson, “What makes you dominant and me submissive and who died and made you scientist-in-chief?”:

At about the 5:40 mark, Dobbs interrupts Kelly, condescendingly saying, “Excuse me, oh dominant one.”

ExCUSE me???!

I don’t have much use for Megyn Kelly in general but she was on fire in this interview, appropriately calling BS on the chauvinistic and completely erroneous conclusions drawn by Erickson and Dobbs.

These vile men are still living in pre-1960s America where women were expected to stay home and raise the kids, cook the meals and be subservient to men. Erickson, in particular, despite his backpedaling in a post at the next morning, is a Neanderthal in his thinking. In that post, he says the only people upset at his remarks are “feminist and emo lefties [with] their panties in a wad” and bizarrely refers to “lazy beta-male MSNBC producers”, something that the Maddow Blog’s Steve Benen had fun with.

The fact that Erickson thinks that science can explain why women shouldn’t make more money than men tells you everything you need to know about him. The fact the Juan Williams, a man with a history of sexually harassing female coworkers, agrees with him must make NPR must wish they could erase him from their history.

As much as the rest of us have evolved, it’s important to realize that, when it comes to sexism and racism, there is an entire segment of our country that has NOT evolved. And Fox News gives them a voice every single day.

  • human guy

    this effect was planned when the rockefellers funded womens suffrage and the cia funded Miss Magazine….

    strange that you defend womens “right” to be just another man being put to work and debt servitude their entire lives instead of having a different role than men

    • Having a job makes women “Just another man”? Your sexist chauvinism is showing.

    • TeacherPatti

      Out of curiosity, what “roles” do blacks and Hispanics have? Gay people? I mean, since we are assigning roles and all.

      And just to be a dick (hey, I’m a working woman so I’m just like a man, right?), I will add: that would be a capital T in this, Rockefellers with a capital R, women apostrophe s, CIA in all capitals and it is Ms. Magazine.

  • TeacherPatti

    This sort of thing always amuses me because poor women, black and Hispanic women have *always worked*.

    I wish they would just come out and say that one of the main reasons they want women back in the kitchen because once you become economically dependent on someone, abuse can start. I don’t mean spousal abuse (but that can happen, certainly) but societal abuse. Without access to our own money, we can become the victim of all sorts of things and then when the time comes that we *need* that income, we will take what they give us (lower pay, shitty hours, no benefits). For example, I spent over seven years in legal aid and I can count on one hand the number of times non-working women ended up better off after a divorce or custody case. A popular thing was for women to stop teaching and “go back with the youngest is 5.” That worked for a hot minute but then teaching jobs dried up and the women ended up subbing for about $70/day while the soon-to-be ex-husband went merrily on with his job. When it comes time to decide custody, financial circumstances are taken into consideration. I worked with dozens of women who ended up in shitty jobs with shitty child care arrangements going up against their exes who had decent jobs and sometimes Wife #2 or Grandma waiting in the wings to provide child care. Guess who won that point?
    I look at the women I went to college with–so many went just for their Mrs.–and they spent tens of thousands on a degree from a private college and then decided to stay home with the kids. Some are okay (for now) but others are economically disadvantaged and probably always will be. Others are stuck in marriages that they don’t necessarily want to be in. We women who work have so many more choices…when my marriage didn’t work out, I could leave. If my current relationship doesn’t work out, I can leave and do whatever since I have my own income. And I believe *that* is what scares them most of all.

  • Joyce M

    Women have always worked. They just didn’t get a paycheck. The reason why women started working outside the home–men neglecting and abandoning their families and the rise in the cost of living vs. the rise in salaries. Has anyone noticed how many wealthy men use a team of lawyers to prevent their estranged wife from getting half of everything? A woman can work or if her relationship or her husband’s job security goes south, she can sleep on the sidewalk with her children. The bubble the media lives in–must be nice.

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