Koch Brothers launch $6.1 million attack ad against Obama, Obama campaign responds, calling it “BS”

We’re not taking this BS lying down

The Koch Brothers group Americans for Prosperity has launched a $6.1 million ad attacking President Obama. You can tell they are prosperous when they spend over $6 million on one ad. In fact, this is now the second time Americans for Prosperity has spent around $6 million on an attack ad against the president.

I won’t link the odious ad but you can watch it HERE if you must.

Obama for America (OFA), the Obama reelection campaign, has responded quickly and, to my mind, very effectively. This response video is pretty unusual. It features OFA deputy campaign manager Stephanie Cutter talking plainly and simply about the lies in the ad. The ad is so blatantly false, she says, “The Washington Post said the ‘erroneous’ attacks were made ‘without shame’.

And, yes, Stephanie Cutter uses the phrase “BS”. Hallelujah!

I’m thrilled to see the Obama campaign responding as quickly and directly to these hideous lies as they are. It’s a big departure from previous campaigns and helps to avoid the “swiftboating” that took out John Kerry in 2004.

More of this please?

UPDATE: Best comment on Reddit so far:

Did anyone else just see a political campaign director talk to us as if we were adults capable of understanding 3 dimensional concepts? I swear she used a cohesive argument, like, more than just a soundbite. Whole. Fucking. Sentences.

UPDATE 2: Here’s the transcript for those that can’t view videos. It was shot in the Chicago OFA office:

Hi, I’m Stephanie Cutter. I’m Deputy Campaign Manager here at Obama for America and I wanted to arm you with the facts about the latest attack from Big Oil.
You may have heard of the Koch Brothers. They’re secretive oil billionaires bankrolling Republican campaigns and now they’re backing Mitt Romney. Pretty simple reason for this, President Obama would take away billions of dollars in unnecessary oil tax breaks. Mitt Romney would protect them. So now they’re spending 6 million dollars on an ad that is so blatantly false that the Washington Post said “They have no shame”.

Let’s get the facts out, because it’s important that you guys know the truth. President Obama’s helped create hundreds of thousands of clean energy jobs. Projects in all 50 states. And the way these oil billionaires and their front groups completely ignore the truth is breath taking. Let’s take some crazy examples from their attack ad.

They claim the administration gave money to build electric cars in Finland. Um, no. The Department of Energy funding was specifically for US jobs at US facilities. Sure enough the company is employing 700 workers in California and they’re planning to build a plant in Delaware.

OK, another ridiculous claim, they said we sent money to China to build traffic lights. That’s wrong again, those traffic lights were assembled here, in this country, and helped expand our light manufacturing industry in this country.

They said we gave money to a company building solar plants in Mexico. Nope, wrong again. Our money is going to build a solar plant here, in America, with American workers.

These guys are going to say whatever it takes to tear down the President. They will literally say anything. They oppose expanding clean energy, they oppose higher fuel efficiency standards for cars and trucks. So we’re going to call their BS when we see it. And we need your help to call them on it too and to set the record straight.

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  • Guest

    Why are they willing to pay out millions and millions upons millions to stop things like president obama, and say, the buffet rule…You would think they might oughta save a little money by sucking it up and just paying taxes. :/

    • Universal101

      The tax breaks and other leglislation that makes them money is worth much more than 6 million, 20 million or 100 million even. In the long run, 6.1 million is pennies on the dollar to how much it will save them if they get their way.

      • http://twitter.com/carbontwelve Simon Dann ♕

        Regardless of the tax they will still be richer than most – so they are just greedy.

        • pdcgimpy

          it just goes to show they are more willing to sell out americans than help americans

          • http://twitter.com/ishmaelrufus Ishmael Rufus

            But they are american. Just Americans of their kind.

    • gregsullmich

      Spending millions upon millions, benefits them by billions upon billions.  That’s a thousand to one.  Quite a return upon investment.

    • Cuturn

      Its not the taxes that scare the crap out of them, it is regulation. They are terrified they might have to keep honest books, clean up their messes, pay living wages. treat people like fairly, answer to someone besides themselves all while not contaminating more land, water and air and ripping off every person they possibly can. 

  • ghhshirley

     I agree, I am THRILLED that the Dems are not allowing these false attacks to stand unanswered!  That is why I and everyone else should continue to donate to support the campaigns of DEMs across the nation, both state and federal.

    • Rmccarty

      attack adds? don’t you mean he is fighting off the truth adds

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/2WWPG65ZB5B2QPT7Y4BZVOQHJM Steven

        yeah, you’re kind of dumb.

      • ghhshirley

        Turn off the brainwashing FOX “News” rightwing nutjob media, do the research for yourself, and buy a clue.

        • http://www.facebook.com/kellykingevony Kelly King

          I hope you realize that both sides are corrupt.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2WB4VISO7H2J7EKGT5DB2N5KG4 miked

            ding ding ding!

          • Bfallonmac

            I hope everyone here realizes that Fisker makes cars than none of us will every be able to afford. I understand it might have produced a few jobs here, but our tax dollars are hardly being put to a use that we the people will be able to utilize

          • Jeff Evans

            You don’t seem to understand the idea behind a stimulus.  It’s not about creating the cars, but rather employing the people that make them.  Also, if luxury goods don’t drive economic activity then we’re screwed even worse with the Republicans’ ideas.

          • slkurot

            You really think the bailout money was used to create jobs? If so, we wouldn’t be in the economic crisis we’re in. Did you completely ignore the controversy over the extravagant vacations the CEOs took with the bailout money or the salary hikes they orchestrated?

          • drew

            stimlus DOES NOT EQUAL bailout!! how hard is that to understand?

          • drew

            stimulus*

          • drew

            stimulus*

          • drew

            stimlus DOES NOT EQUAL bailout!! how hard is that to understand?

          • http://www.facebook.com/Brandon.A.Gilbert Brandon Gilbert

            I don’t think he ignored them. But I also think you’re dumb for thinking that ANY recession would be 100% fixed in 4 years.

          • http://www.facebook.com/Brandon.A.Gilbert Brandon Gilbert

            I don’t think he ignored them. But I also think you’re dumb for thinking that ANY recession would be 100% fixed in 4 years.

          • Ananon

             Brandon gilbert You sir are one intelligent person no recession would be completely fix in 4 years props to you my good sir 

          • Rick Milligan

            You do realize the unemployment rate increased due to the tea party budget cuts in 2011?

          • mike

            i would love to see you logically connect those two. here ill give you motivation: only a moron would associate a financial increase in the private sector with unemployment rates. i swear to god you people here two things on the news, draw a line between them with a crayon, and go to sleep somehow thinking you’ve reached a logical conclusion.

          • Rickyacid

             Actually its pretty easy to equate them. Financial increase in the private sector is made due to the private sector firing people, which makes those people unemployed. None of this is particularly difficult to grasp.

          • Gravastar333

             If you check the numbers, you’d see that private sector employment is back to what it was before the recession. The jobs that didn’t come back were all the teachers, social workers, park rangers, state police, and firefighters that the budget cuts (teabaggers) fired. So, yes it is an easy conclusion. Because the simplest explanation is actually most often the correct one.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SMJ2ZDACFDSMSYE3OEWDDNX7ZA Neal McCarten

            I suppose that’s why German workers are so very ready to get rid of their jobs at BMW and Mercedes-Benz? Get real buddy. Next you’ll be complaining we shouldn’t build planes because you don’t get to fly enough. 

          • JustinMorgan

            I belive the company in question is actually Tesla  Motors.  Read up do some research.  Invest if you have some sense.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1065175687 Bruce Jensen

            Prove it.

        • Undigestedspam

          Yeah, don’t you realize that this website is consumed with leftist brainwashees that don’t care for your facts or opinions?  This is not a place of ideas.  It’s a place for liberals to circle jerk each other.

          • Unicorn

            Soooo… Fox News?

          • treesarepeopletoo

            whoa! YOU GOT HIM! good one bro! HAHA. ok now im gonna try and insult you using the same level of intelligence: prius?

          • mike

            did it work? no? well guess what yours didn’t/wont either it only entertains people with virtually no creativity. at least use an insult that someone didn’t already use in this exact thread….

          • hoss7071

            You should see the circle jerk going on at Reddit over this. The Obama-bots, can’t pump each other off fast enough.

          • mdg445

            you can tell who the jerks are who don’t have an intelligent opinion on the article, but rather feel the need to resort to name calling

          • hoss7071

            I’d offer an intelligent opinion, if American politics actually took an ounce of intelligence to understand. We have a two-party system, that’s morphed into one single party that has convinced millions of useful idiots (voters) that they’re still different. They both fight for unbridled control, by slowly dissolving currently existing checks and balances.

            What’s worse, they’ve also convinced the useful idiots that removing said checks and balances, are for thier own good. The Koch brothers ad, and this article is simply more propaganda to add to the dick measuring contest that is American politics.

          • beyerch

            Smartest person I’ve seen yet in this thread.  I do believe one party cares a LITTLE bit for the ‘little people’ while the other party blatantly doesn’t care though.

            Neither party; however, truly represents the will of the majority of the people….

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=807260290 Zach von Behren

            Blah blah blah!

          • obamamahero

            wah wah wah!

          • Evans Carlson

            I saw a thoughtful and detailed discussion of truth in advertising laws in different countries, with the consensus seeming to be that while frustrating, it’s probably better not to legislate against the lies.
            What did you see?

          • LoloCopter

            u mad?

          • mrose4243

            What’s wrong with that? Everybody should be happy! U against happiness?

        • ObamaShiva

           You do realize CNN is last in viewership because of their crazy left wing liberal bias right?   If Fox was an evil bias right wing nutjob news outlet, no one would watch it.   Fox News is number one in viewership because they dont let the left (and right) get away with their BS and they call them out on it.   If the truth hurts you, then just keep watching your MSNBC and CNN new nanny networks.

          • Johnedward53

            Faux Noise is the propaganda wing of the Koch brothers, it is not the fact that they own the GOP that bothers me but the fact that the GOP was for sale.

          • http://eclectablog.com Eclectablog

            BWAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

          • alejo699

             You are AWESOME!  You actually think that FoxNews has high ratings because it tells the truth!  Truly, truly amazing.  –Especially since FoxNews went to court to *defend their right to lie.* 
            I hate to burst your bubble of fallacy, but popular does not equal quality or truthfulness.  It just means people like it.  And people LOVE hearing the lies FN makes up because it fits into exactly what they believe:  That we live in a “nanny” state and we’d be so much better off if the Koch Brothers ran the country.  A tiny, tiny part of me wishes Romney would win so you could see exactly how delusional you are.

          • Anon

            It’s all about the demographics. Fox is number 1 because it feeds the majority BS that they think the understand. Fox wants money in any way that they can get it, so they cater to the stupid majority.

          • Cgb15

            I watch Fox news for the comedy. What makes it extremely funny is that they are serious. If you read the bin Laden files it shows that even they knew Fox was the worst in professionalism and neutrality and that is why they stopped sending videos to them, al Qaeda thought Fox nes was a joke

          • Victordlg

            Fox news gives away it’s network for free to standard cable plans and thus they are viewed all over.  Unfortunately, the viewers are getting what they paid for,

          • Jon

            Its not so much ‘giving it away’ as it is ‘carry this channel on basic or you can’t have our other channels’. The cable cos are still getting paid for every subscriber.

          • Jon

            Err.. The cable cos are PAYING for each subscriber.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=807260290 Zach von Behren

            CNN is last in viewership because they are lame enough to attempt the “both sides are the same” meme which falls flat every time you take a closer look.

          • YouShouldHearYourselfTalk

            Yes, I agree.  Popular stuff is always better than less popular stuff.  Whoops — time to go watch the Kardashians while listening to Justin Beiber.

          • OfficerSlatman

            Sorry Sean Hannity Fox News is only number one on cable TV.Most people watch network news!

          • Rick Milligan

            You do realize that CNN is more of the middle ground compared to fox and msnbc?

          • TD

            And McDonald’s sells the most hamburgers because they are the best in the world.

        • ObamaShiva

           You do realize CNN is last in viewership because of their crazy left wing liberal bias right?   If Fox was an evil bias right wing nutjob news outlet, no one would watch it.   Fox News is number one in viewership because they dont let the left (and right) get away with their BS and they call them out on it.   If the truth hurts you, then just keep watching your MSNBC and CNN new nanny networks.

      • http://mithunonthe.net/ Mithun Divakaran

         Ads, not adds.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YOIUMHAYNWVPEY2HGMIQTSQGJ4 Amansings

         too much crack?

      • Danny

        Redneck much?

      • http://twitter.com/christophla Christophla

         Don’t feed the paid troll.

      • James C

        Oh wow its Raymond “Joe” McCarthy, back from the dead and spewing his BS

  • bedrockq

    I always roll my eyes when people try blame the swiftboat thing for take out Kerry.  Kerry took out Kerry.

    • Jlaynes

      Truer words were never spoken.

      • http://twitter.com/MicheleBach666 Dr. J

        Personally what upsets me most about the swift boat ads is there so many people that voted for Bush after those ads ran.  Bush and his scumbag allies showed their hatred of veterans by attacking Kerry’s military service.  Bush never condemned the ads and was so happy they benefitted him.  He pulled the same bullshit on hero Max Cleland.  Anyone that voted for Bush should be ashamed of supporting a scumbag that attacks war heros and children.  (John McCain’s adopted daughter in S.C.)   Anyone that watches that fat draft dodging racist Karl Rove on Fox News should be ashamed too. 

        • CB_Demented

           We didn’t vote for Bush. We voted against Kerry…who is ironically Mitt Romney in ass colored clothing.

          • http://twitter.com/MicheleBach666 Dr. J

             You voted for the worst president America has ever had.  Your stupidity destroyed the city of New Orleans.  John Kerry is a dork but at least he cares about human beings and wouldn’t have put a political crony in charge of FEMA.   People died because you voted for a draft dodging idiot who called a real American hero a coward.  I’m sure you are very proud of yourself. 

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=807260290 Zach von Behren

            How’d that work out for ya?

        • http://www.facebook.com/Brandon.A.Gilbert Brandon Gilbert

          I’d like to remind you of Carter.

          • http://twitter.com/MicheleBach666 Dr. J

             How many American cities did Carter destroy?  How many people died because Carter put an idiot in charge of FEMA?    Jimmy Carter is a better person and president than George W. Bush ever could be.  After his presidency Jimmy Carter devoted his life to building houses for habitat for humanity.   George W. Bush gives speeches to trade associations for money. 

          • RainOnRoses

            Carter is awesome. A great man.

          • http://twitter.com/MicheleBach666 Dr. J

             I hate how people slam Carter.  The world would be a better place if all the leaders were like him.

          • http://eclectablog.com Eclectablog

            He’s one of my heroes, for sure.

  • cryingliberty

    Wow. About the only way that could have been a bigger smackdown is if she was paired up with Anderson Cooper doing a special guest edition of the Ridiculist.

    Absolutely hilarious to see her just completely eviscerate this attack ad.

    • CB_Demented

       Meh. She got the first blow against an early ad that was full of crap. Are you going to be as impressed when someone does the same thing to an attack ad going the other way that’s just as full of it?

      • Bill Cole

        Assumes facts not in evidence:

        1. There will be an equally false attack ad from the Left.
        2. There is someone on Romney’s side willing and able to make such a cogent and direct response.

        • http://twitter.com/MicheleBach666 Dr. J

          The “Left” doesn’t lie like Republicans do.    We have these things called facts on our side so we don’t need to make up things.  Like the most recent ad from Obama that points out what a bunch of Osama coddling pussies the Republicans are.   Loser Republicans never would have gone after Bin Laden in Pakistan.  John McCain, George W. Bush, and Mittens Romeny all said they wouldn’t have done what Obama did.   Thank God most Americans are complete Bin Laden loving pussies like you Republicans. Keep voting for the political party paid for by the Koch brothers. Unless you are a Koch brother they ain’t going to on your side stupid.

      • Bill Cole

        Assumes facts not in evidence:

        1. There will be an equally false attack ad from the Left.
        2. There is someone on Romney’s side willing and able to make such a cogent and direct response.

      • thatguy

        When we see one, sure.

      • thatguy

        When we see one, sure.

      • cryingliberty

        Aw, isn’t that cute?

        He’s trying to lessen the effect of the ad by downplaying just how AWESOME it is.

        That ad is so awesome, it stands on its own – it doesn’t need to have Stephanie Cutter in a biplane being flown by a T-Rex to seem more awesome. It just needs HER.

        That ad is so awesome, Chuck Norris took a long look at it, and nodded approvingly.

        That ad is so awesome, the combined power of all the lolcats on the internets couldn’t topple it.

  • Rmccarty

    Funny to watch the Dems say that everything if false when they are lying through their teeth.

    • Jlaynes

      Like what?  What lies are the Dems telling?

      • http://mithunonthe.net/ Mithun Divakaran

         Rmccarty won’t have the guts to respond with the truth.

        • http://twitter.com/christophla Christophla

          Please, RMccarty is known to be “paid for trolling” the RNC message… don’t feed the fool, and he’ll be out of a job.

      • http://twitter.com/MicheleBach666 Dr. J

         Rmccarty can’t even type out a full sentence without an error.  He isn’t even smart enough to proofread his sentences.   Asking him for a fact or logical statement will get you nothing.  He is exactly what Mitt Romney is hoping the average voter is, a stupid unthinking child.   That’s why Mitt Romney lies and flip flops every 5 minutes.    Do you think the professional liars on Fox News are going to point out his lies to their brain dead audience?   They have important things to talk about like if Obama was born in America or if he is simply a closet muslim.  

        • CB_Demented

           So why don’t we talk about some other important things about Obama then.

          Like why didn’t he fulfill the campaign promise, one of the cornerstones of his campaign btw, to close Gitmo?

          Why has he not called for an investigation into his AG for the gun running program he signed off on, or for lying to congress, who is about to charge Mr Holder with contempt of congress.

          Why is it that Obama, who promised in his campaign that his government would be transparent, and open, has commissioned the CIA to run a secret drone bombing campaign that’s targeted civilians on multiple occasions? http://dissenter.firedoglake.com/2012/04/29/obamas-death-panels-jeremy-scahill-at-the-drone-summit-video/

          And while we’re on the subject of bombing, after all the bombing of “the rich” and mention of Buffet rule, why is Obama’s justice department acting as a proxy for the entertainment industry in an unconstitutional attack on a file trading company? http://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2012/04/megaupload.htm

          So which is more odious? Some stupid campaign lies, which will be flowing fast and heavy from both sides over the coming months, or the actuall bombing of innocent people and subjugation, once again, of the constitution by the sitting administration?

          • http://twitter.com/MicheleBach666 Dr. J

            Blah blah blah Obama isn’t perfect blah blah blah.   Everything Obama has done outweights all the boring nonsense issues that your tiny Fox News brain is filled with.  Look, you aren’t very smart and you don’t understand how the government works.  Obama can’t do everything by himself.   There are three branches to the United States government and each one has a power.  Maybe if Mitt Romney was opposed to all the things you blame Obama for doing you would have a point but if anything the Republicans would be worse. 

            Obama spent all his poitical capital passing universal healthcare.  Obamacare provides health care for over 50 million people that don’t have access.  This will save more lives than anything you are bitching about.   Obama ended don’t ask don’t tell which will be one of the most significant steps in achieving equal rights for gay people.    Anyway you keep bitching about the time Obama killed a terrorist and I will keep praising Obama for giving healthcare to 50 million poor people.  

          • http://twitter.com/MicheleBach666 Dr. J

             P.S.  You are the biggest fucking troll I’ve ever met.  You voted for Bush and yet are bitching about Obama for Gitmo?    Now I can see your complaints about Obama have nothing to do with policy and everything to do with Obama not being the white skin color.  Oops I mean right.   Go fuck yourself troll.

          • Yamez

            Dr. J…I think I love you.
            THANK YOU for pointing out the 3 branches of government.  I think a lot of people have forgot what they learned in school(or just didn’t pay any attention in history class) and now it is biting them in the ass, whether they realize it or not.But to go off Dr. J’s points-
            We have a 3 system government, not a dictatorship.  Obama is NOT supreme ruler and he does NOT have the power to simply make things happen.  Our system is suppose to rely on checks and balances.  Each branch(legislative, judicial, and executive) does not have more power than the other and each one has a check over the other.
            In my opinion, Obama has made good on a fair amount of his campaign promises, more so than any president I’ve seen.  He is trying to do what is best for the country.

            What does NOT help, is when people bitch and moan about somebody or something but offer no other solution.  When everybody bickers and nobody is willing to sit down, like adults, and talk things over to find the best solution for everybody as a whole.

            Compromise.Negotiate.
            Discuss.
            THINK.

            It seems most politicians don’t know these words.  If we could all get along and stop acting the selfish assholes, maybe we could make our country good again and get Europe to stop laughing at us.  They see our country as a spoiled teenager, one who thinks they know better than the older adults who have been around the block a few times.

            How about we stop the mudslinging and name-calling and bashing and the taking away of rights(whether it be the rights and privileges that come with marriage or hospital visits or women’s health or the right to collectively bargain for fair working conditions) and actually work on our country.  Pump money into building the roads, making cities better, making sure police are able to do their job(in the non-corrupt asshole way, going back to the basic point of their job which is to serve and protect), and education.

            We are all humans.  Can’t we treat each other fairly?

          • Yamez

            United we stand,
            divided we fall.

          • Yamez

            Also, in getting to the economy, when a snowball rolls down hill for a couple of years, the damage it caused is not going to be fixed in 4 years.  Especially not 4 years in which the 2 groups trying to do the repairs bicker and won’t focus on the real issues and won’t let the other one do certain things that might help.

          • Yamez

            Shitty analogy is shitty, I know.
            But as long as it gets the point across I don’t care how terrible it is, it worked.
            :-P

          • http://twitter.com/MicheleBach666 Dr. J

             I love how this people are mad at Obama for minor things while they let Republicans off the hook for focusing on birth certificates and making sure women can’t get birth control.   It’s pathetic.  I don’t like everything Obama has done but I don’t like everything about any one person on Earth.

          • RainOnRoses

            As soon as Obama got into office, Republicans made it clear that their highest priority would be to get him OUT.  This is their sole objective. This explains all of their actions. They will not cooperate until “the people” make them. We must retain Obama and make them understand that we NEED balance, compromise and negotiation, not Totalitarianism.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=807260290 Zach von Behren

            He didn’t close Gitmo because it takes money to close Gitmo, and Congress (not the WH) must approve of spending. He promised he would order it closed, he did.

          • http://eclectablog.com Eclectablog

            Stop it with your facts and truth. There’s no place for that in political debates.

          • Bill Cole

            “Like why didn’t he fulfill the campaign promise, one of the cornerstones of his campaign btw, to close Gitmo?”
            Because a bipartisan coalition of paranoid imbeciles in Congress passed a bill forbidding it. How can anyone who brings up Gitmo not know that? 

            “Why has he not called for an investigation into his AG for the gun running program he signed off on, or for lying to congress, who is about to charge Mr Holder with contempt of congress”

            Good question. I think Holder has spent 3 years demonstrating that his time out of government did not include acquisition of a moral compass or growth of a backbone, despite appearances 3-4 years ago. He has proven himself unfit for his office, and his failure to fire everyone involved with F&F the day he learned of it is an important part of that proof.

            “Why is it that Obama, who promised in his campaign that his government would be transparent, and open, has commissioned the CIA to run a secret drone bombing campaign that’s targeted civilians on multiple occasions?”

            See Brennan’s discussion of that this week. I think it is an implausible claim that the drone program has “targeted civilians” for any rational definition of those words, and such claims are never made by anyone who can credibly claim to know. 

            As for transparency, a military program is the last place you will ever find it. If you want transparency, try http://www.recovery.gov. Reversing the natural tendency of government to operate opaquely and the active promotion of that under Bush is a large slow process. If you had listened carefully to Obama, you would have noted that he made relative promises about transparency, not absolute ones. I think he’s met the promise to be “more transparent” and maybe even the “most transparent”, even if he’s not making the CIA publish daily operational planning reports. 

            “why is Obama’s justice department acting as a proxy for the entertainment industry in an unconstitutional attack on a file sharing company? This clearly a civil case, yet Holder’s crew is prosecuting the case in a criminal trial”

            I don’t think it is at all clear that the MegaUpload case is not criminal in principle, although it does seem clear that there are technical challenges with enforcing US criminal law against foreign corporations that were not met (and maybe couldn’t have been) in this case. I think this is another case of Holder going along with a corrupt bureaucratic establishment that is in the habit of doing anything in the intellectual property realm that the lawyers from Disney, Universal, Sony, et al. can give them a rationalization for. 

            As for that reflecting on Obama, I think that has to be informed by an understanding of how the federal government and especially the DoJ should function.  I think that the Holder Problem has been made worse by the fact that Obama doesn’t see the Reagan/Meese or Bush/Gonzales cases as the proper models for how a President should relate to an AG. Holder’s serial failures are his own and only reflect poorly on Obama in the sense that the appointment was a mistake that has played out as such in a predictable way. 

            “So which is more odious? Some stupid campaign lies, which will be flowing fast and heavy from both sides over the coming months,”

            Arguing from the assumption of purely hypothetical future events is about as weak as it gets. There are gradations of untruth due to the imprecision of words and the human capacity for sincere misbelief, so there really can’t be a valid argument that all sides are equally guilty of the sort of bullshit called out in this case until such time as there is a concrete example. Based on their respective track records, I think it is ridiculous to suggest that Romney and Obama will engage in comparable sorts of  ”campaign lies” in the coming 6 months. Romney hasn’t managed to personally alienate 2 batches of nomination contenders by accident, he’s done it largely by a pattern of carefully crafted and practiced dishonesty. 

            ” or the actual bombing of innocent people and subjugation, once again, of the constitution by the sitting administration?”

            Apples and oranges and hyperbolic hogwash. 

            I’m all for ending all killing of innocents in war, because I’m all for ending war, which always kills innocents and always will.  I think the Forever & Everywhere War crafted for us by the prior administration for strategic domestic political ends  remains a huge intractable problem that has no ethically pure solution which can actually be executed by any President. Our architected state of war is to some degree working as designed, but I think Obama has followed an unexpected path to dismantle that design by finding colorable “victories” to end the various sub-wars one by one. It is clear from Romney’s choice of advisors and spokespeople on military and foreign policy that he is fully on board with the strategy of a permanent state of unwinnable war against a vaguely defined enemy (the “Not With Us” legions.) As cynical as it may be, Obama has declared victory and left Iraq (which is hardly a peaceful place) and has lashed US policy to a similar path in Afghanistan, with victory pre-declared for 2014 and a decade of vigilant friendship declared for the ensuing decade without regard to actual events. I’m not sure I understand what endgame plan is served by the CIA drone campaign, but I expect there is one. Given the alternatives of a proven track record of overall reduction in the scope and intensity of our warfare or promises to reverse that trend, the right choice is clear to me even if it isn’t one I’m excited about making in this area. The option of rapidly dismantling the military-industrial complex  and de-imperializing our foreign policy isn’t being offered by anyone realistically capable of winning the Presidency, and it hasn’t been for a very long time. Anyone who believes Obama ever offered that was not paying attention. Since I never held that delusion I’m not particularly disappointed. 

          • Twinkiedawn

             Well said.

      • Sean

        *Crickets*

    • stupid_fox_news

      What lies have the Dems told?

  • eclecticbrotha

    The Republicans can’t help getting their facts wrong; they think California IS Mexico,.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/E7O2EEYQ5DZG4WN7HWIMR6LCJE Nigel

       To be fair to the republicans, it’s being built in San Luis Obispo, CA which sounds like Mexico to a republican – and geography has never been a republican strongpoint.

      • Guest

        Yet, Obama couldn’t count the number of states in ’08.  He claimed 57 at that time.

        • Better Guest

           Jesus Christ, you Republicans can’t go two sentences without making something up, can you?

        • Titan

          There are if you count the 6 us territories and washington DC which is technically it’s own territory.

          • Bebobli

            So the question was probably stated as “How many US territories are there?” and the Guest above misinterpreted it.

      • Bitch-slappah

        Lol, sort of like holding a job has never been a Dem’s strongpoint.

        • Youknowyoucantwin

           I love it. “I can’t win, so I will just try and insult you, AMERICA!” You, my friend, need to not vote.

        • thatguy

          Good point, “Bitch-slappah” very insightful and fact based.

        • thatguy

          Good point, “Bitch-slappah” very insightful and fact based.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=807260290 Zach von Behren

          Well aren’t you witty!

        • Twinkiedawn

          I’m reading your point to be that ‘holding a job has never been a Dem’s strong point” is one of those Republican lies.  Right? Because it is, you know.

  • Doodle

    ‘Facts’ presented in the video: 

    “created or saved hundred of thousands of clean energy jobs” – they don’t know whether they created or saved jobs? and in what country? That is pretty poor project management skills, I would be fired on the spot if I wasn’t able to measure my investments.

    “projects in all 50 states” – what sort of projects? how many do they employ and what is the net worth and ROI of the projects? Market share doesn’t mean much if your net income is net negative and future return on investment is also negative.

    It’s pretty tough to ignore these “truths” when they are so blatantly vague… Obama campaign is no better than the Koch brothers… sorry! Don’t like either side.

    • Derpington III

       I share the sentiment, but I can certainly decide which side I dislike the least, and that’s going to have to do for this election. Until real reform comes through, It’s all a matter of voting for the lesser evil.

      • Doodle

        It’s a shame that people are left with only two options How do we drive reform though if we are always voting for the lesser evil heading down the same road as always?

        • Anon

          Granted, the Democrats are very far from an ideal choice; however, they at least attempt to care about doing their damn jobs from the looks of how the country’s condition goes up any time they got significant control over both Congress and the Presidency. It’s not a lot, but it IS there if you care to look. National-level Republicans, on the other hand, act like a bunch of fucking lunatics, both in their campaigning and their policies. It’s my personal opinion that this country might collapse on itself if they are allowed at the wheel for too long, 3 terms being my shortest rough guess. Granted, turning in 3rd party votes does very well of nudging politicians in the right direction in the long run, but it just doesn’t help in the short term which we REALLY need if we don’t want the next Sarah Palin or Rick Santorum in the White House.

        • T. Ferguson

          Check out Jon Stewart’s recent Daily Show interview with Robert Reich- he makes a compelling argument that we all need to be much more engaged in the civic process if anything is to change.  Reich also talks about how a legitimate third party could establish itself.  Essentially, he points out it takes a lot more than ranting online and showing up at the polls every few years if any Democracy is to survive and flourish.

          http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-april-18-2012/robert-reich

      • http://twitter.com/MicheleBach666 Dr. J

         Obama provided health care for 50 million poor people who didn’t have it, ended don’t ask don’t tell, saved countless jobs with the GM bailout, and killed the biggest asshole in the world. (Bin Laden)   I’d love to hear why he is evil?  

    • apples

      It’s a 2minute ad…I’m sure if you wanted answers to those questions you could find them readily available. Just because a 2 minute ad doesn’t explain in detail every single thing ever done during the presidency doesn’t mean they’re intentions are bad.

      • Doodle

        I really don’t expect every single thing to be mentioned, but the vagueness of the language is a key to understanding deceptive political ads from both sides. They could have changed it to e.g: “Saved 500,000 and Created 200,000 green tech jobs.” “Given 200% return on tax payers bailout money.” – but they did not. I really can’t find any credible data, so if you could help me out, it would be greatly appreciated. I don’t even know if it was a net job loss to the green tech industry… if you create 300,000 jobs with a bailout, but lose 700,000 it’s not exactly something to brag about (imagine yourself being at a casino with that sort of return). I also expect sources, similar to polls on news channels informing me where the data is from.

        I just don’t trust Koch nor the Obama campaign, regardless of how emotionally engaged they are.

    • Alex

      It wasn’t that they weren’t sure whether they created or saved, it was a combination of the two efforts (i.e. the created & saved hundreds of thousands, but you can see how the or makes more sense here).

      Like the other commenter said, you can look it up if you’d like but they don’t have enough time in a 2 minute video to cover everything you’d like or even use terms like ROI.this is an ad for the AVERAGE american, one that might not understand slightly advanced economic principles 

      • Doodle

        She says: “let’s get the facts out because it is important that you guys know the truth…” followed by the written language “created OR saved…”. Language here is extremely important. If the campaign meant to say “created AND saved” they would have, but that would not be a fact and they would be held liable. This ad is carefully crafted in legalese language, it is not a coincidence and that they did not write the word ‘and’. 

        That they have a project in 50 states is of very little importance compared to saying that every project has created X jobs or given 100% return on tax payers bailout money. I can setup a 50 country project tomorrow, it has no meaning to anyone. My ‘iff’ with this ad as with Koch’s is the vagueness of the language. Deceptive political ads is rampant on both sides of the ‘two party’ system…

        • Will

          Sorry, but I think you misunderstood it a little.

          If the ad used “and”, that would mean each job would be “created” and “saved”.
          Take this as an example: “I cleaned and swept the house.”
          The house was both cleaned and swept.
          The meaning you thought the ad meant would have to have 2 separate nouns.

          “The administration created 200000 jobs and saved 500000 more.”

          Compare it to: “The hostages were rescued or shot.”
          Each hostage was either shot or rescued. The total number of hostages had a combination of those 2 things happen.

          • Walter Lee

            Just say it directly: Doodle doesn’t understand English grammar.

        • Scribble

           Listen, Doodle, if you’d taken an introductory Logic class in college, you’d know the disjunctive “or” in the strict inclusive usage implies the same meaning as “and/or” in everyday language. If she said “created AND saved” that would mean each and every job would have had to have been BOTH created and saved at the same time – something which is clearly nonsense. That’s why the “or” is the only sensible choice, and it means exactly what you’re saying she should have said: each INDIVIDUAL job of those hundreds of thousands of jobs was either created or saved but not both. That’s what she said. You’re being deliberately obtuse and refusing to open your ears because of some preconceived notion that both sides are equally corrupt, when in fact one side clearly supports the environment, the poor, education, women’s rights, and public health while the other side actively seeks to destroy these things. Open your ears and open your eyes, Doodle. You’re complaining that this ad is “vague” while the Koch ad is demonstrably and deliberately FALSE, and yet you somehow conclude that “both sides are the same.” There’s some serious flaw in your reasoning.

          • http://eclectablog.com Eclectablog

            Top comment. FTW.

          • musiness

            I’m impressed, “Sense in  Uncommon,” you put a lot of mental energy in this comprehensive answer on a comment based on minutia!

        • http://twitter.com/swampudlian Jeff K-ski

          Think it through… If they’re saying that a particular job existed when they started their initiatives, but would have been cut without their action, that’s a “saved” job. By definition, it’s not “created”.  On the other hand, a job that is “created” didn’t exist before their initiatives took hold.  By definition, it’s not “saved”.  So these things are mutually exclusive.  Saying “or” or “and” when things are mutually exclusive makes no difference.

    • Jasko

      The 100k jobs in question could either be created or saved.  Not both.  To say they created and saved 100k jobs would either mean that they created 100k jobs and saved 100k jobs (for a total of 200k jobs) or that they created 100k jobs which were then put at risk but then later saved.

      I can’t tell if you’re trolling or just stupid.

    • derpface

      “created or saved” is used in this video to buff their numbers. If they have, for example, 10k jobs saved and 25k jobs created, they can say “35k jobs created or saved”, because it’s factually correct.

      She doesn’t go into the details of the project because this video is a quick fact check: people don’t want to watch a 10 minute video with a political title. They’d much prefer “Here’s what you should know” – 2 minutes.

      I think if you’re going to nitpick, at least get your head together and pick things that are worth moaning about. The fact that you’re calling them out because you don’t understand what is going on is incredible.

    • bealente

      How convenient that you don’t call out the Koch brother’s lies used in their ad that aren’t backed up by your criteria.

      If you don’t like either side, start a party and run for office.

    • Walter Lee

       You can go on the government webpage which lists the projects in all 50 states, the money each project received and the jobs it created. If you take some time and do some research instead of just “goin” with your feelings” – you’ll see they are “facts” – I am sure many of the companies have great ROI on projects and who cares about their net worth – is a small company that is worth a million bucks not has important than a 1 billion dollar company? You don’t seem to understand business well – do you even know what market share is? Many new businesses have a large market share because they have created the market – but because of investment debt will take years to make a profit. As their market matures, their market share may actually reduce – but soon they will make a profit. As they grow, new companies will enter the market as well, and this free market system is what makes America great!

    • Broizfam

      Agreed but still better than very specific and carefully directed lies.

    • musiness

       There is not much difference between created and saved. Mitt Romney wanted to let General Motors fail. Those jobs would have been lost. They, and jobs like that, should definitely be counted.

  • Demonplacenta

    Actually assembling in America, while a good start, does not mean the lights were not made in China.  Actually, being assembled in America could mean they were simply hung on American streets, and each and every part could have come from a different country, it could even be some percentage of American made.

    My only concern is that I officially do not trust ANYONE.  This ad could be just as misleading as the last I guess.  On one hand, any scenario like the attack ad suggested would probably be an awful way to spend American dollars.  On the other hand that lady gave some examples of projects occurring in the United States, and there is a chance that she is not lying, and these jobs exist.  Back to the other hand while she can not tell us about every project in one ad, who is to say that both ads are actually truthful, and there are monies being spent for projects outside of the US aside from the planned aid we all know about, or think we know about.  Is there a country we do not send money or tings of value to?  Anywhere?  Even our worse and most incompatible countries.

    As long as there is so much paperwork and legalese in our government the American people will not know what is going on.  I defiantly do not support a law student in the White House.  And I’m a republican.  I am not rich, but I hope to be rich, and not spend 30% more time getting there (assuming a high tax rate would equate to a similar increase in time, thus disrupting me enjoying the only life I get, with others reaping the benefits.  We don’t exist because of America, America exists because of us (all of us, not republicans) and it owes us, not the other way around.)

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/JLFKHWPAR276JYMPAILMEZMTDM raanne

       There are no LED manufacturers in the US. So it is disingenuous to suggest that they should be made from scratch in the US when that literally isn’t possible. Every. Single. LED. Product that you see is made with LEDs that were created in China. But often times the product itself is made in the US, as is the case in the example stated.

      • http://twitter.com/DearLeader10 Gogo Ubari

         And Congress tries their damndest to block legislation that could spur LED light manufacturing here. People don’t read bills anymore, if they ever did…

  • Ratki11er

    Did you notice how she didn’t directly address any of the points in the attack ad? First of Obama has had 4 years to remove the oil tax breaks… he hasn’t even tried. Next she claims Obama created hundreds of thousands of clean energy jobs… how many of those jobs have gone away when the corrupt companies Obama supported went bankrupt? Then she addresses the claim that the administration supported electric cars in Finland, or does she. Note how she talks about the department of energy’s financial support of electric cars in the US. When we send money to a foreign country it goes through the department of state. Next her claim that we sent money to China to help them build traffic lights. Again she does not directly address the claim, instead she simply states the lights where assembled in the US. So if we send them lights build here for free is that different from simply paying china to make lights for themselves? Props to the campaign for doing pretty good damage control on some substantial negative advertisement, but anyone with a lick of common sense will see the truth behind this add. Obama is no different then Romney. He supports big Oil, he supports sending jobs overseas for major corporations to profit. Democrat or Republican we are voting for the same person…..

    • http://eclectablog.com Eclectablog

      “Obama is no different then Romney.”

      You have GOT to be fucking kidding me. You can’t possibly believe that.
      Yeesh…

      • Not the Same

         You’ll notice there are no Democrats who say this. That’s because our side is demonstrably better, period. Perfect? Hell no. Better? Absolutely. Only those on the worst side would try to make both sides equivalent; those who support the better side obviously gain nothing by suggesting that both sides are the same, so by merely suggesting they are, we know which side the suggester is on.

    • Walter Lee

       Obama needs the house to create a law to remove the tax credits. The senate needs to do the same. Unless both do, then pass that law, then present that law to the president, he can not remove the tax breaks by executive order. Learn how government works.

      • Overhere

         Obama had the house and senate for 2 years.  Learn how Obama is is wrecking this country.

        • T. Ferguson

          Yeah, and during that time, the Senate GOP used the filibuster (or threat of one) in historic proportions to grind the gears of government to a halt. 

          “The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.”

          – Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY), in an interview with the National Journal, describing his goal in retaking the Senate.

          October 2010

        • http://twitter.com/MicheleBach666 Dr. J

           During that time Barack Obama spent all his political capital pushing through Obamacare which provides health insurance for 50 million people that didn’t have it.  How many lives does having access to healthcare save? 

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=807260290 Zach von Behren

          Wrong again. Kennedy had brain cancer and was in no shape to vote, the Franken recount here in MN was stalled on purpose by the GOP to keep him from being the 60th vote, and then when Kennedy passed Scott Brown was elected.

        • musiness

           You need 60% democrat vote in either house to override republican obstruction, and neither house had that – they had closer to 52%. They did this for every bill brought forward. ESPECIALLY bills that would cut taxes for the ich.

  • Scscanlan2004

    I love the adulation poured over the response ad while the original ad that brought about this story is hidden in a link. Bravo. 

    • http://twitter.com/DearLeader10 Gogo Ubari

       How difficult is it to click a link, really? The post was about OFA’s ad, not Koch’s.

  • Geoffvster

    all of Obama’s ads should come in this form for the duration of the election. Low budget, No emotional music or montage of the American countryside. Simple facts. And a website to give the specific details of those facts to the hair splitters.

  • Guest

    Ron Paul 2012 

    Obama, Romney, Mitt are liars. Every one of them.End the federal reserve.

    • http://eclectablog.com Eclectablog

      You guys are so cute…

    • Luxem

       Although I do admire your commitment to a candidate, though I do disagree with many of Ron Paul’s policies, the unfortunate facts are that it is at this point fairly pointless to continue.  Based on the delegate numbers, it is mathematically impossible for Ron Paul to win the Republican nomination in 2012. Sorry if I bursted your bubble.

      • Timcarper

        So, why not change the voting system to a failover-type rather than the ‘vote for the winner or your vote is a throwaway’ system we have today?

      • Timcarper

        So, why not change the voting system to a failover-type rather than the ‘vote for the winner or your vote is a throwaway’ system we have today?

    • Walter Lee

       Rob Paul is an Ayn Rand Libertarian. Read his COMPLETE agenda and you’ll probably not see him in the same way. He has some great ideas, but overall he has a typical utopia idea of the perfect government – and like any utopian idea, it doesn’t work.

    • WIRCP5376

       Why are Romney and Mitt listed as 2 different people? Are you so caught up in the Ron Paul craze you don’t even know the names of the other candidates?

      • http://twitter.com/Vindictive29 David Low

        Well, he does seem to be able to take both sides of every issue…

        • musiness

           Haha! Very good point! maybe he does need 2 names. How about Mitt and Willard?

    • http://twitter.com/MicheleBach666 Dr. J

       Ron Paul made lots of money publishing a racist newsletter in his past.   He is unfit to be the leader of a powerful modern country like the United States of America.  I know the immature dumbasses that make up his fanbase like to ignore that fact but its true.   When questioned about this issue he has lied and changed his story many times.  He has made no effort to atone for his actions and that money is still sitting in his bank account.   He published this newsletter when he was an old man, not some youthful mistake.  His stupid ideas combined with his questionable background are why his movement hasn’t grown at all since 2008.  

  • Guest

    How did they manage to spend $6m on that? I could’ve made it for them for $60.

    • Fdfgsdfds

      I guess you don’t know the difference between buying airtime/adspace and ad production?

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  • Willzyx

    Stephanie Cutter needs to work on her body language. Too condescending. Southern folk don’t take kindly to people who don’t take kindly.

    • Walter Lee

       I live in the South and Southern folks are just as condescending. They just don’t like anyone not like them – true sign of ignorance. If you can’t understand that someone isn’t like you and you judge them based on your perceptions, you’ll live your life hating everyone and accomplishing nothing.

    • Broizfam

      I think the idea was to BE condescending. Not to the people she’s addressing, though, but to the people she’s rebutting.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2XVRZJ5LUVQDLUUAXAZ4QDSUWY Andy

      Given the South’s actions over the past 10 years, they’ve earned all the patronizing they can handle and then some.

      • pandalin

        Can we stop this line of reasoning? I’m southern, a democrat, and a social liberal. You don’t reach people by being patronizing. A lot of the people in the South are honest, hardworking people that are far from the stereotype you would like them to be.

        • http://twitter.com/MicheleBach666 Dr. J

          Southern states have the lowest voter turnout nationwide.   Southern states are always on the bottom in terms of quality of life and wages. If there are so many cool people in the South why don’t they get off their ass and vote? 

        • musiness

          You’re one of the good ones, but you shouldn’t defend the bad ones. If I were in Europe, and they bashed stupid Americans, I wouldn’t defend them. I’d just say. I agree, but I’m one of the good ones fighting the good fight. Don’t forget to give us kudos here in the trenches.

    • Whiskey Mike

       Well, bless your little heart

    • Icarium

      Southerners don’t take kindly to democrats anyways.

  • CommonSence

    Its funny how this page is plagued with Obama propagandists, probably on his payroll as well… Realize that Obama really isn’t claiming to do anything better, his record the past 3 years is horrendous and that is the last thing they want you to look at, they are running an attack campaign bashing Republicans rather than showing us how much better the economy is after Obama’s term.  Employment?  0 change since he came into office, where are those “shovel ready” jobs?  And what happened to Obama’s investment in Solyndra? They went bankrupt!  You want to know why the price of oil is so high?  Because of all the money Obama has been wasting on his budget the fed is forced to print money to pay those debts, when there’s a ton of new money in circulation your money is worth less.  Its called inflation, thus the price of a gallon of gas will increase.  Obama claims that he is not the cause of the debt, it was Bush.  In Bush’s 2 TWO TERMS he raised the debt by $4.899 trillion; already in Obama’s 3 years of presidency that has gone up by over $4.939

    • http://magicalmelonball.deviantart.com/ ジニー

      Well, considering how you spelled your user name, I can see why you’re being completely delusional and ignorant. Please educate yourself. 

      It’s common SENSE. 

    • Sense is Uncommon

       You understand so little that it makes me feel bad for you. Life must seem very strange and very scary to someone like you.

    • Sense is Uncommon

       You understand so little that it makes me feel bad for you. Life must seem very strange and very scary to someone like you.

    • DontWorryImFromReddit

       So anyone supporting Obama must be on his payroll, huh?  Then you must be on Romney’s payroll.  There, see how I did that?  It works both ways.

      If your theory behind the reason for gas prices were correct, then the price of EVERYTHING would have risen by the same percentage.  Inflation affects all goods and services, not just the price of gas.  You need to research the factors contributing to oil & gas prices.

      And, for your own sake, try branching out from Fox News a little.

    • CommonSense

      ahh yes, attack me as a person rather than refute the facts. typical left wing politics, case and point.  and if you haven’t noticed the price of all goods and services has been on the rise, not in direct relation to the price of oil (caused by the sensitivity of oil to geopolitical events), maybe if you bought your own groceries you would see that 

    • lolpalin

       http://whattheheckhasobamadonesofar.com/

      It’s easy to ascertain that the president hasn’t done anything in 3 years when you only watch Fox News or listen to Glenn Beck and Limbaugh..

    • http://twitter.com/jsonix Jeffrey Kawalek

      For starters, here is a graph of job growth vs. unemployment starting with W’s second term, and continuing into O’s first term.  Notice that the downward trend in jobs began BEFORE W’s second term, and reversed itself and started increasing jobs in January of 2009, when O. took office. Notice also that the unemployment rate also started rising at the beginning of W’s second term, and only started to fall a few months into Obama’s term.
      As for Solyndra, “The solar company loan represents about 1.3 percent of the entire loan guarantee program, which was a $2.4 billion initiative created under the 2009 Recovery Act to support the new green technology investments, which can be risky. Under the program, the government does not actually pay out any money, but guarantees that if the company fails, Treasury will repay the private loan.”

      So, in other words, 1.3 percent of the Government program went to a bad loan guarantee.  I wish that MY investment counsellor ONLY made 1.3% bad decisions.

      Here is DATA (which is notably missing from your post, rather than Fox talking points and rants) which explains the reason that debt has reached the level it has:

      The Pew Center reported in April 2011 the cause of a $12.7 trillion shift in the debt situation, from a 2001 CBO forecast of a cumulative $2.3 trillion surplus by 2011 versus the estimated $10.4 trillion public debt we actually face in 2011. The major drivers were:Revenue declines due to the recession, separate from the Bush tax cuts of 2001 and 2003: 28%
      Defense spending increases: 15%
      Bush tax cuts of 2001 and 2003: 13%
      Increases in net interest: 11%
      Other non-defense spending: 10%
      Other tax cuts: 8%
      Obama Stimulus: 6%
      Medicare Part D: 2%
      Other reasons: 7%[39]
      According to the Pew Center (NON-PARTISAN) Obama’s actions are responsible for 6% of the increase in debt, whereas the Bush tax cuts alone are responsible for 13%, and other tax cuts are responsible for another 8%.  So if we raise taxes back to reasonable levels, we will address 21% of the debt problem.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001217400849 Kevin Egelston

    I think elections in the US have become the new WWE of the 1980′s. You know, where the players yell and scream at other. They constantly go on television to bash their opponent. In the ring they give us a choreographed fight show that was all practice and planned out ahead of time. Then when the show is over, all the players are best of friends joking about the nights show, sharing drinks, stories of grandeur. It’s a real shame all you Americans just eat this shit up for breakfast and still vote at dinner.

    • http://eclectablog.com Eclectablog

      No-drama Obama scream at his opponent? Not likely…

    • ImpureScience

      Except that it’s not really a both-sides-do-it thing at this point, and it’s not really staged, and there really is a lot at stake. When is the last time you saw the President yell or scream at anyone?

  • http://designchat.info Ryan McGovern

    When does this cross the line in to being illegal? A lie is a lie, right? Defamation? Anyone?

    • musiness

       Very good point!

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  • Dave A

    I always appreciate the comments from the right.  Their hearts are filled with hate for our president because their parents taught them to hate people whose skin is a different shade. They claim to love God, but if God is a God of love, then they can’t possibly know God. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UF6BV4CKEKIGNVLGSYTOYP2HVA Allen

    PAC ads are 100% tax deductible.  lololololo

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_P3P6M2JWDU5PEHXFPZSMGUOEXA Chris

    I like to believe that America is going to hell in a hand basket. Reading the comments here reinforces my belief. Thank you all for being so short sighted as to choose a side and then taking it a big step beyond that by blindly defending that side. Liberals, if you think “your party” hasn’t spent millions attacking conservatives, you’re beyond help, feed yourself a bullet or whatever you might have handy. Conservatives, defending the capitalists that continue to expand the divide between the rich and poor by saying the rich deserve what they worked for is equally short sighted. The average workers wage continues to decrease while the average executives wage increases exponentially. 
    Stop choosing sides or close the lid on the hand basket and enjoy the ride.

  • audieho

    Here’s my favorite line:  “President Obama’s helped create hundreds of thousands of clean energy jobs.”

    Really?  In 2000, when Bush took office, the total number of unemployed was 5.6 million.  Immediately after 9/11 the number climbed to 8.3 million.  When he left office, the number was at 8.9 million.  That’s a growth of 3.3 million, mostly due to a direct attack on our financial heart.

    In four years under Obama, the total unemployment number has climbed from 8.9 million to 13.7 million.  That’s a growth of 4.8 million in less than 4 years.  So we are supposed to be all giddy that he’s up a couple hundred thousand clean energy jobs while the country has lost millions more jobs? 

    He’s lost more jobs in less than 4 years than Bush did over 8 years.  When are you people going to pull your heads out of your rear ends and understand this?

    Oh, and here’s the data – right from Obummer’s own Department of Labor:
    http://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsaat01.htm

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Aragon/1258240700 Chris Aragon

    um… obama is a traitor.  Why doesn’t she talk about that, huh?  When you sign into law something as hideous as the NDAA, then you’re a traitor.  How can people blindly follow this man?  Huh?  How?  Can somebody please clear that up for me?  As usual, America the dumb.

  • Dorota Sadowicz

    So… I pass about 5 or so homeless people on my way to/from work every single day. If anyone is bored and looking to blow $6 million, I can definitely give you some suggestions…

  • Raymundo

    s someone picking on poor little Obama again?

  • http://twitter.com/MargaretToigo Margaret Romao Toigo

    Every political organization has its crackpots, but the GOP is now letting theirs run the party. The Democrats have a rare opportunity here, as long as they keep fighting back and not allowing themselves to be cowed when Republicans get nasty. 

  • Raymundo

    Fighting back?  They will cringe in the corner and play the helpless victim as per usual.  They are incapable of anything else. 

  • Mikem777

    ‘Secretive oil billionaires’! Really?

  • Ben Cook

    Glad to see all that money they (Koch Brothers) are saving to create jobs.  Idiots!  No one wants to follow a double minded person.  Romney changes positions faster than a pit crew at Nascar!  This is not a positive, because being President requires being consistency not just when it is convenient.

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  • connie x

    stefanie your are a total bu*tt wh*ore get that dildo%% out of your %ass

  • Openminded2012

    Seems to be a lot of things in the video that need clarification. To operate any type of emission plant you have to pass EPA laws and the Koch brothers do. Public record look it up. Also the money for the cars was to shore up assets and the phrase “Planning to build a plant in Dellaware” hum give money to some one who might? Oh now the trafic lights ya “assemble” is the best word for that. 100% manufactured outside the US and snaped together here. As for the solar plant. Yes it exists in the US but base manufactures in Mexico and is in financial ruin and is on the verge of collapsing.

  • http://www.facebook.com/littlepaulwall Paul Carroll

    did rupert mirdock owner of fox new s pay you big bucks too say that

  • http://www.facebook.com/littlepaulwall Paul Carroll

    I stopped watching every cable new s network on cable or satilite 2 years ago I have been watching truth tellers and nothing else on the web RT Rocks for not being bribed by any company or corporation ! switch too http://www.rt.com/usa best thing I’ve did my whole life !

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